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Comuzzi: "Stephane, I'm not for sale"


by
Angelo Persichilli
THE HILL TIMES

MPs are not extensions of provincial governments in Ottawa because that’s not the way Confederation works and they shouldn’t be pressured by provincial premiers to vote a certain way in the House of Commons, says the former federal minister of immigration Joe Volpe.

                In an interview with The Hill Times, the Ontario Liberal MP waded into the dispute between Ottawa, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Saskatchewan and he criticized the pressure on MPs to side with the premiers of their provinces to break ranks with their national political organizations last week.

                “If this practice will be pursued further by certain provinces, then I believe that also the MPs from Ontario might take a second look at their role,” Volpe said.

                Meanwhile, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty warned Prime Minister Stephen Harper last week against making any further concessions to Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, and Saskatchewan.

                The three premiers accused the Prime Minister of breaking a promise to allow them to receive full benefits of oil and gas revenues without any reduction in equalization payments. Harper’s government is continuing to negotiate with Nova Scotia.

                McGuinty said last week that Ontario supports equalization, but said Ontario won’t be taken advantage of. He said if those provinces’ fiscal capacities exceed Ontario’s then they’re no longer entitled to equalization payments.

                Volpe said that “by now everybody has made their point, equalization has been accepted, the provincial premiers are defending their points and they are capable of doing it. The role of the federal government is to maintain a federation that is unified, strong, progressive, and forward-looking and I believe that we all should keep this in mind in all our discussions.” As for the role of the province of Ontario, Volpe said “Ontario has always been a great contributor to the federation’s progressive outlook. However, as a Member of Parliament from Ontario, I know that that contribution can be taxed unduly, especially if more and more provinces become defensive of their own interests. So, I believe that the province of Ontario needs to defend its own interests, however, the Members of Parliament from Ontario need to keep in mind that when we enter in discussions like this, that Ontario is a net contributor to the federation and the equalization plan, and we should be making sure that nothing is done to diminish Ontario’s ability and willingness to make that contribution. I don’t think we should put the province of Ontario in the position where its willingness might be diminished.” Lately, however, this role seems to be under a lot of stress. “Lately, the Members of Parliament from Ontario have been under a lot of pressure from the City of Toronto, in particular, and from Ontario, in general. We are accustomed to this pressure but, I said earlier, we always have to keep in mind to keep the interests of the federation front and centre. The provincial premiers defend the interests of their provinces.

                For us, unity is the most important and the national economy is important for building a society for tomorrow. I wouldn’t like to see a situation develop where Members of Parliament from Ontario are nothing more than an extension of the provincial government of Ontario.” Volpe wouldn’t criticize his own Liberal Party but said that “speaking from a partisan point of view, I wouldn’t like to see the current Prime Minister as the sole spokesman for Ontario.” Will that bring about a change in the attitude of the Liberal MPs from Ontario? “That’s not the way our Confederation will be strengthened, but my concern is that other provinces, including Ontario, might make similar demands to their Members of Parliament, and that would be a development that would not be very productive and we would have to rethink the whole issue of representation.” Asked why he voted against the federal budget if he’s in favour of the equalization formula presented by the federal government, Volpe said the federal budget is not just about one issue: “I voted against for a variety of reasons. I don’t believe that the budget will accomplish what I believe is important. However, what the discussion is now focused on in the budget, unfortunately, is on something that divides Canadians.” The former federal minister for Ontario said that “we are talking about equalization as the centrepiece of the budget. Yes, I voted against the budget, but I think that the discussion of the equalization runs the risk of dividing the country because the precedents that have been vigorously and aggressively moved by provincial premiers will have a cascading effect on provinces, in particular in Ontario, which is a net contributor to the equalization.”

THUNDER BAY, ONT.—MP Joe Comuzzi, who joined the Conservative national caucus last week after sitting as a Liberal MP for 19 years and will be the first Conservative to represent the riding since 1930, says the Prime Minister never tried to buy his loyalty and that he was the one to approach the Conservatives first.

                “I said, ‘Mr. Prime Minister, let me be clear immediately, and then we can get on with business, but I’m not here to negotiate: I’ve made up my mind, I’m asking you to let me join the Conservative Party’s caucus and there are no conditions,’” Mr. Comuzzi told The Hill Times last week after Prime Minister Stephen Harper flew to Mr. Comuzzi’s Thunder Bay-Superior North, Ont., riding to make the announcement.

                Mr. Comuzzi said that particular conversation unfolded between himself and the Prime Minister on June 21 and was one of their last afternoon meetings in Ottawa.

                Mr. Harper (Calgary Southwest, Alta.), of course, welcomed Mr. Comuzzi into his caucus and briefly dealt with the dynamic of the announcement, but Mr. Comuzzi said that was the only part in which he himself was the topic of any conversation.

                “Joe Comuzzi supported our recent budget and our historic deal which resolved the Canada-U.S. softwood dispute,” Mr.

                Harper said last Tuesday in a statement.

                “So it feels very comfortable to stand here today with Joe and welcome him to the Conservative Caucus.” Mr. Comuzzi, 74, was first elected in 1988. He is the first Conservative to represent the area since 1930. Mr. Comuzzi will not seek re-election.

                Mr. Comuzzi said after that the June 21 conversation with the Prime Minister, other issues were mentioned but that the main subject was Northern Ontario. Mr.

                Comuzzi said his decision to move to the Conservative Party was finalized during that June 21 meeting, but emphasized that the process started a long time ago.

                He said it’s been years since he and the Liberal Party, the party he once believed, in actually gelled.

                “I gave 18 years to the Liberal Party.

                But it’s not my party anymore,” he said in a statement last week to reporters. “Mr. Dion is taking it down a road I cannot follow.” Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion (Saint- Laurent-Cartierville, Que.) kicked Mr.

                Comuzzi out of the Liberal caucus after he voted for the Conservatives’ 2007 budget.

                Mr. Comuzzi supported the budget because it promised $14.7-million for a molecular medicine research money that would create 300 jobs in Thunder Bay.

                But long before that Mr. Comuzzi said he’s had troubles with his former party.

                He said he did not like former prime minister Jean Chrétien’s style in dealing with his MPs and he did not like many of the decisions adopted by his government, including the Chrétien government’s decision not to compensate the victims of hepatitis-C.

                Mr. Comuzzi left then-prime minister Paul Martin’s (LaSalle-Émard, Que.) Cabinet in 2005 to vote against the Liberal government’s legislation to legalize same-sex marriage and battled with the Liberals over gun registry spending and by calling for a review of official bilingualism.

                He said he gave up his Cabinet position as minister of state for the Federal Economic Development Initiative for Northern Ontario because he made a commitment to his constituents and wanted to respect it.

                But the root of his dissent with the Liberal Party goes much deeper: he did not agree with his government and how it handled the softwood lumber dispute and tried hard to help in negotiations. At one point, he had set the stage for a favourable agreement, but his efforts were snubbed and undermined by the ministers of his own government, he said.

                But his disappointment with Mr. Chrétien’s regime was nothing compared to the disappointment with Paul Martin. He said he supported Mr. Martin since 1989, “but he was my biggest political disappointment.” Mr. Comuzzi said he was also disappointed by how his party treated former Liberal leadership candidate Joe Volpe (Eglinton-Lawrence, Ont.) and, as a Liberal MP of Italian origin, said Mr. Volpe’s treatment illustrated to him that the Liberal Party is less open to ethnocultural minorities than it says it is.

                Mr. Comuzzi said the behaviour of the media and the Liberal Party against Mr.

                Volpe left a mark on many ethnocultural communities. Interestingly, Mr. Comuzzi and former Liberal MP Wajid Khan both supported Mr. Volpe and both joined the Conservatives.

                Mr. Comuzzi said things did not change with the election of Mr. Dion. Mr. Volpe and his supporters were immediately marginalized.

                Mr. Comuzzi received a phone call from Mr. Dion a few days after his Dec. 5 election. The new leader told the veteran MP that he was going to be left out of the shadow Cabinet: “ ‘We want new blood,’” he was told. Mr. Dion excluded Mr. Volpe from his “dream team” presentation in Toronto in January, including all leadership candidates.

                But Mr. Dion is not much interested in “new blood” when it comes to Massimo Pacetti (Saint-Léonard-Saint-Michel, Que.), a young bright Liberal MP from Montreal with a problem: he supported Joe Volpe.

                Meanwhile, Mr. Comuzzi’s vote to support Finance Minister Jim Flaherty (Whitby- Oshawa, Ont.) was just the last hurdle: Mr. Comuzzi was turfed even before he supported Mr. Harper’s budget for a political sin that Mr. Dion urged the Liberal Senators to commit.

                “It’s different, they are not elected and they can’t go against the will of the House,” Mr. Dion said.

                Meanwhile, Mr. Comuzzi responded to some innuendo last week coming from some Liberal quarters about the possibility of a deal: “Stéphane, I was in government with you, and I left to follow my principles. I’m not going now to sell my principles now to go back where I was. Stéphane, I’m not for sale.”

 

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