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IS IT GOOG FOR CANADA TO "CELEBRATE OUR
DIFFERENCES"?
Citizenship and Immigration Minister wants to bring in "the right people that Canada needs"

by Angelo Persichilli   (Versione italiana)
THE HILL TIMES 

Citizenship and Immigration Minister Judy Sgro, who wants to act swiftly and radically in new her portfolio, says she wants a profound debate on the future of Canada and questions whether it's good for the country to keep "celebrating our differences, instead of what brings us together."

Said Ms. Sgro: "I believe that Canadians need to be engaged in who do we want as new Canadians in this country; where should they came from; what skills should they have. We, as Canadians, should start talking about that."

But the minister was more specific, saying that we should also be "looking at the whole identity of the people living here currently and whether we continue along the avenue of allowing people to celebrate diversity, and look at the heritage of many of these people. Canada is so diverse now that, to pretend it isn't is a huge mistake. We need to concentrate more on what brings us together and what we celebrate together and we move forward to build the country."

Ms. Sgro said she believes that "clearly it is time we get engaged in what we need, what Canada needs to stay competitive, internationally. There are a lot of complications now. All the countries have the same problem Canada has: an aging population and declining birth rate. Canadians have to pay attention to those two issues." Ms. Sgro said she wants to move swiftly.

In fact she had a meeting with her provincial counterparts to "talk to them of a plan for the future, and start to look at a five-year new strategy to make sure that Canada will stay in the right position and we will bring in the right people that Canada needs." Ms. Sgro said it's important that Canadians start asking themselves questions like: "What the labour market needs, what the employers think they are going to need in the next four to five years, how are we going to get them here and from what country? How are we going to deal with those things? Do we need a new system to handle immigration in Canada?"

According to Ms. Sgro, Canadians should ask themselves if "the system we presently have, which people say is very good compared to other countries, is still the system for the 21st Century that Canada needs. I'm not sure it is." According to the minister "we have to look at how we handle the applications, how we process them, how we determine who comes to this country and who doesn't and then, very important, how we determine who needs Canada's protection. How are we fulfilling our obligations under the international obligations, including the Geneva Convention?" Those are important issues and the minister said she doesn't believe "Canadians realize how important those questions are. I believe that we take immigration for granted because this is a natural process that happened in a country where people apply and come here." The only time people are engaged "is when they mix the two issues up: one is a refugee, which has nothing to do with immigration. Immigration is still hard to get into Canada, like it was when my husband came and many others.

            It's still tough to get into Canada." In fact, according to the ministry, there are 700,000 applications for people wanting to get into embassies around the world and Canada accepts 250,000 a year.  "We also have to make sure that those people who do come here  are able as soon as possible to access the labour market and find a job. As soon they do, they buy a house. Immigration keeps the economy going. That's critically important. But we do not have a plan and it is time that Canada have a plan.

            That has to be worked out with employers, the provinces and others and we have to make sure that we know where Canada is going in a successful way." Moreover, Ms. Sgro said that she wants to have more input from other levels of government, not only the provinces "with which we have agreements and we are working also to make one with Ontario, but also with municipalities." Ms. Sgro said it is important that "we find out, for example, what Saskatchewan needs, versus Ontario needs or Manitoba. We need an immigration system that is in this regard more flexible and responds to employers, the provinces and our cities." Municipalities are very important, said Ms. Sgro, in this process: "Having an agreement with cities will be ultimately another avenue to get closer to where people understand where the needs are. By the time the provincial and federal governments get up to the mark, often is too late. I want to turn the pyramid around. We should facilitate the needs of our employers, the cities and our provinces. That's different from how we handle immigration today."  According to the minister "now the system is led by the government of Canada, it's very bureaucratic and not always in touch with the reality of what happens on the ground today." Then there's the issue of refugee claimants. Is our system abused? "Clearly.

            In all programs there is always an opportunity for abuse. There is a lot of abuse in the refugees' determination system. People know we have a fair and generous system. That's a reality. We have abuse." Ms. Sgro said that "when people come to our border and claim refugee status, we have the obligation to process that application and see if that person genuinely needs our protection. And we want to do that." But clearly there is something wrong: "We had to introduce a visa requirement for Costa Rica early this year. The reason? We had 3,000 people come to our ports of entry last year alone claiming refugee status. Out of 3,000 only one was grant the refugee status. They clog the system and people can appeal it. So, the people that truly need our protection take some times three or four years before they get a decision. We need to shorten the system." Ms. Sgro has a suggestion: "We need three steps: we listen to you, we make a decision and we give a chance on an appeal. We need all of this to happen in six months not six years. What happens is that people use this as an avenue for immigration and this is not immigration." Another major problem Ms. Sgro said Canada has is related to illegal immigrants.

So what is the plan? "We have a couple of choices, we can pretend it doesn't exist, keep our head in the sand and ignore it, or we deal with the issue." She has some ideas: "I know it is unfair, I know that those are people coming from the backdoor, but, if they are in this country fulfilling the needs that Canada has, they don't have a criminal record, let's find a kind of program for those people." Ms. Sgro said she understands that many "use the refugee system because they don't have the necessary points to be immigrants. But they are hard-working and honest people and they have proven themselves by working for an employer here, illegally as it may be, but still honest people. I believe this is the humane thing to do."

The plan, however, doesn't include a general amnesty: "Surely there is not going to be an amnesty. There is no support in my government, or across the country. I believe there is support for a program that will look at case by case. We can develop a policy and if they fit that parameter we can solve the problem." And, maybe, the present point system has to be changed: "I'm not adverse to the fact that, while we look towards the 21st Century and we ask ourselves what immigration policy we need, may be Canada need to have a process for people who don't have 67 points, but there is a need for them. It may be that they are poor hard working people that deserve to be given a chance. I believe it is time to open up the debate and move forward." But these are a lot of ideas that require a lot of funding.

Does she have the required funding? "That is the proposal that is going to my Prime Minister." Angelo Persichilli is political editor of Corriere Canadese, Toronto's Italian-language daily newspaper.

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